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Post  Valentin0z Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:24 pm

Just want to talk about a more less-talked-about item here...
Ghost staff just came out recently and i have almost never seen anyone buy it
What are your opinions guys ?
When should it be bought?
Is there any specific hero it should be bought against?

Thought i'll start the ball rolling.
Ghost staff is really effective against those annoying imba dps heros especially during late or even mid game. Eg. Troll , Drow.
Using ghost staff + tp is really effective against them IMO as they can do nothing but watch you tp home.
However, if u get caught by a spell during the duration of ghost staff... DAMN that'll hurt.
I just played a draft yesterday where a drow with +299 dmg watched a 20 life potm run away right before his eyes as he could do absolutely nothing.
If u have ghost staff + movement speed/ escape mechanism, i think it would be a really good escape tool. (like Blink dagger or lothars, only cheaper) It looks cool too !! Surprised
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Post  Zaroff Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:33 pm

I think it's definitely a decent item, more utility of course. But I think the cool shit is the abuse in which you can dodge so many skills (not sure what is the criteria), but it's awesome of course.
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Post  ReVeRiE^ Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:28 pm

Omnislash < Ghost Staff
Ursa < Ghost Staff

btw, does ghost staff stack with Rage? If it does = immunity?
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Post  Valentin0z Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:45 pm

Rage? As in Naix's rage? If its bkb or rage i wont think so...
Anyone here's a list of all the shit a ghost scepter can block / negate
Copied this off some blog.
Mortred,Jugger-all spells,
Tinker – Rockets
Atropos-brain sap,
Lesh-diabolic edict,
QoP-scream of pain,
Dirge-soul rip,
Meepo-earthbind,,
Pit Lord-Pit of Malice,
Pudge-Hook,
NA-Vendetta,
Brood-Spawn Spiderlings,
Techies-land mines/suicide,
Earth Shaker-Echo Slam,
Omni-Purification,
Chen-Test of Faith,
Naga Siren-Ensnare,
Morh-adaptive strike,
Bristle back-Quil Spray,
Beast-Wild axes,
Alchemist-Acid Spray.

***All the above information is credited to Kuarinofu. ***
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Post  ReVeRiE^ Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:07 pm

thanks =)

if rage/bkb works with ghost scepter that means immunity Smile
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Post  Zaroff Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:36 pm

Valentin0z wrote:Rage? As in Naix's rage? If its bkb or rage i wont think so...
Anyone here's a list of all the shit a ghost scepter can block / negate
Copied this off some blog.
Mortred,Jugger-all spells,
Tinker – Rockets
Atropos-brain sap,
Lesh-diabolic edict,
QoP-scream of pain,
Dirge-soul rip,
Meepo-earthbind,,
Pit Lord-Pit of Malice,
Pudge-Hook,
NA-Vendetta,
Brood-Spawn Spiderlings,
Techies-land mines/suicide,
Earth Shaker-Echo Slam,
Omni-Purification,
Chen-Test of Faith,
Naga Siren-Ensnare,
Morh-adaptive strike,
Bristle back-Quil Spray,
Beast-Wild axes,
Alchemist-Acid Spray.

***All the above information is credited to Kuarinofu. ***

So I more or less understand the pure damage spells here not being amplified, nor those dependent on other variables (stats, number of heroes in vicinity, and even the physical spells. Why the f*** for the rest though? Serious oversight by Icefrog or some mechanical issue or something? It's not the same as Banish effects since Decrepify doesn't have the same "pros" as Ghost form...
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Post  Valentin0z Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:21 pm

Huh!? Dont quite get wad u mean... That list of spells are spells that using ghost form, u can evade...
Some of them are physical dmg spells so thats why i guess they can be negated. The rest i dont quite know either... havent really tested it out. Maybe icefrog wanted ghost staff to be a more special item? =)
Well i was quite surprised looking at the list that its SUCH A LONG LIST. Wao!
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Post  Zaroff Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:28 pm

In case it's not clear I'm wondering whether Icefrog meant for the spells to be able to dodged. I know some of them can't be amplified so they probably get evaded but I dont know about the rest.
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